In recent comments at the Ronald Reagan Foundation and Institute’s National Defense Forum, General Eric Smith, the Commandant of the Marine Corps, stated that America could defeat China in a war because of our combat experience in the Middle East.
“The advantage lies with us because our last combat was captured on somebody’s iPhone 14... The Chinese’ last combat was captured on oil and canvas, and they should not forget that... I would not undersell the value that our combat experience brings to this fight.”
Smith went on to praise America’s “warrior culture”:
“It is easy to bluster. But it’s another thing when you actually have to go toe-to-toe and go in harm’s way. And we have a lengthy history of going in harm’s way — in Iraq, Afghanistan. We’ve built a culture of warrior excellence, warfighting, interoperability in the joint force. The PRC has not yet had to deal with that. They haven’t had to deal with that in decades.”
These claims are remarkably stupid. For one, the Chinese’ last combat was not captured on “oil and canvas.”
The United States fought—and lost—a war with China in living memory! That combat was captured not in paintings but in photos and videos. Communist China intervened in the Korean War after UN troops pushed to the Yalu River on the border of North Korea and China in 1950.
Communist troops from the People’s Liberation Army pushed American and United Nations forces south in a series of bloody engagements in that fall. The Battle of the Chosin Resevoir in November 1950 is well-known to Marines (save for General Smith) for the brutality of the cold conditions. Chinese forces pushed the Marines back to the 38th parallel but we inflicted heavy losses in the process.
American troops displayed great bravery but, it should be noted, that conflict was a disaster for the Americans. America and the United Nations forces were not able to hold out against the poorly-equipped but well-disciplined Chinese army. Despite having nearly conquered the whole of the Korean peninsula in the late summer of 1950, the Chinese were able to push American forces back.
It is due to that counter offensive that North Korea exists today.
Moreover, China fought in another major war in the 20th century—World War II! Chinese forces fought against the Japanese on and off from 1931 to 1945—and the period from 1937 onward saw some of the worst casualties of the whole global conflict. The Chinese suffered some 3-4 million soldiers and 15-20 million civilians killed, to say nothing of those wounded.
The Chinese weren’t able to defeat the Japanese on their own, of course, but they did fight and on an enormous scale.
It is shocking that a 4-star American General is so ignorant of recent history—including the history of his own branch—that he would say something as stupid as the last Chinese combat being captured on “oil and canvas.” Either General Smith does not know when photography was invented or he does not know the most basic Wikipedia-tier facts about American military involvements in the Far East. My guess is that General Smith is ignorant on both counts.
That hunch is based on personal experience with General Smith. Smith was the commander of the 1st Marine Division when I arrived there, fresh from the schoolhouse, in January of 2018. My first week in the fleet, General Smith ordered every lieutenant in the division to attend an all-hands meeting on officer conduct. At that conference, in front of several hundred junior officers, Smith claimed, among other things, that the United States would be at war with North Korea within one year.
He advised us to read the book This Kind of War: The Classic Korean War History by TR Fehrenbach in order to prepare; though it would seem he himself never read the book seeing as he does not know the Chinese communists fought in that conflict!
I found Smith’s claim outlandish and bloviating even then. I made a note to check in January of 2019 to see if the war had broken out (it did not).
Smith has a pattern of being spectacularly wrong and blustering in public. He isn’t alone in that, of course. The higher echelons of the American military-industrial complex is filled with ass-kissing fools who couldn’t find their way out of a wet paper bag if you gave them a compass and a map.
For instance, the United States spent two decades bleeding American troops in Afghanistan and Iraq only to ignominiously leave both countries in shambles. These, by the way, are the very wars that General Smith praised for honing the “warrior culture” of the American military.
What absolute bullshit. Most of the Global War on Terror veterans that I know are deeply cynical about their experience. Men who fought hard for territory in Iraq and Afghanistan later watched as ISIS and the Taliban swept through their former Areas of Operation with nary any resistance.
The lives of their friends and comrades were destroyed for nothing.
Meanwhile, the toxic spread of leftist ideology has poisoned the morale of the post-GWOT military, including the Marine Corps. General Mark Milley condemned “white rage” in remarks before Congress. The COVID vaccine mandate drove out thousands of loyal and patriotic conservative soldiers and Marines who did not want to be subjected to an experimental medical procedure. The Biden administration’s crackdown on “white supremacy” was merely cover for targeting any right wing servicemember altogether.
Our military does not have a warrior culture. We don’t win wars! Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan were all losses or, at best, draws. Considering America’s vast economic and political might and our supposed status as “leader of the free world,” our recent military track record is a disaster.
The American Navy, in particular, is a mess. Our warships are literally rusting in their berths and, as the Fat Leonard scandal revealed, the upper command is profoundly corrupt. Our once-proud military is filled with scavengers and parasites who seek personal aggrandizement over the needs of national defense—80% of former generals go to work for defense contractors.
A sober and thoughtful commander would seek to fix those problems instead of saber-rattle in the stupidest way possible. For one, General Smith mentioned iPhone 14s filming America’s most recent combat. And who, exactly, built those iPhones, General?
The Chinese, of course! A great power conflict between China and America would pit us against our leading trade partner and source of manufactured goods and rare earth materials! China, for instance, has 10 times the steelmaking capacity of the United States. The Chinese possess nearly complete global dominance in the processing of rare earth minerals—key ingredients in high tech components.
General Smith, if he were paying attention, would also ask how exactly China and America are supposed to fight a conventional war in an age of nuclear weapons. How will the Marine Corps be able to win a decisive engagement against a foreign power that could simply annihilate an entire division with a handful of atomic warheads?
No one has ever satisfactorily answered this question. No two nuclear powers have fought a direct engagement since 1945. The Marine Corps can redesign the force all it wants but the deepest and most important question is this: how can we fight, much less win, a war against another nuclear power?
Our conventional military has fared poorly against insurgent forces—Iraq and Afghanistan attest to that—and war with a nuclear power is almost certainly impossible. Such a conflict would cease to be “war” and simply become “slaughter.”
Intelligent military leaders would seek answers to these questions. We don’t have those leaders, though. At least not yet. President Trump can change this. He could start by relieving Smith of command and promote an officer with a functioning brain to stand in his stead.
We need serious reform in the Department of Defense. That change should start at the top. I for one, would like to see my former branch become a serious warfighting organization. The Marine Corps is not a circus and the Commandant should not be a clown.
General Smith and the 38th commandant were/are egomaniacs in a small clown car inside the big tent in one of the outside rings racing in circles to prove how dumb and silly they are, and in the main insult most if not all Marines past and present from E1 to four stars who served before the MIC went bonkers and the congress promoted and enhanced dunce cap wearing fools like Milley, Austin and our own Frank MacKenzie author of the now infamous NEO from HKIA. Imagine engaging say a consultant group like but not necessarily McKinsey and Co., and have them encourage you to “divest to invest” all of the critical fighting equipment and units you need to meet your Title X statutory mandates. The consultants must have been giddy as they watched General Berger defy gravity on the high wire knowing he would crash and burn, but knowing the second clown AKA General Smith with his goofy high tight and fresh off passing his combat fitness test is doubling down on their intentionally bad advice! The Stand In Force and Marine Littoral Regiment concepts proving impossible to implement because the Corps had neither the T/O or T/E or the Navy to support the concept. Think of the money the consultants will make advising that the Marines buy back the gear they sold! Saigon Sam in JVille is smiling from Heaven, even he didn’t think this big!
Don’t lose hope, (YET…) but this Marine Infantry Officer would like to morph into the fly on the wall status when and if Mr. Phelan is confirmed as SecNav and has his first and only meeting with with CMC Smith. Hope springs eternal it goes something like this:
“hi ya General, congrats on passing your annual CFT and nice haircut. Can you tell me what it is you Marines do?” “I see you have a mission and you don’t do it. I see you have ground troops that are supposed to float but can’t, and wing assets that can’t fly and oh and an annual budget of $38 billion.” “Further in talking to my real bosses Elon and Vivek we think you nice fellas have out lived your useful purposes.” Dead silence and then the final nails in the 249 going 250 year coffin, “We are going to merge the ground with the Army and the Air with the Air Force, and thanks for coming in, have your papers on my desk tomorrow morning at 0800.” Let’s hope Chowder Society II can save our bacon and someone can get us our war fighting gear back in time for the next brush fire.
As to China, a peer to peer fight with the CCP and a population of 1.4 billion people needs to be explained to this writer. How and where is this happening? Will the rest of the global economies stand by and just watch the USA get its fat overly lazy ass kicked? How soon before the next Jake Sullivan talks his boss into a first strike of nukes? After all everyone knows you can “Win a nuclear war.” There are no serious people left in Washington DC, children with big toys that can end the world talking trash, and a really dumb four star living in the oldest standing structure in DC, saying we will be at war with North Korea in 2019.
We can only hope that on day one the new SecNav fires General Smith as well as all the other current 3 and 4 star Marine toady generals, moves some 1 and 2 star war fighters up and grabs some really tough smart 05 and 06’s who had their asses shot off as lieutenant’s and captains in the GWOT for deep selection to brigadier and Major General.
Great post by the way!
I do not have the expertise or knowledge to comment on the readiness of the USMC, but I do know a few things that are relevant.
1. Chinese concept of warfare is "5th generation warfare." The book "Unrestricted Warfare" by PLA Cols. Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui describes the early conceptions of this.
2. Many Western observers have pointed out that the Chinese military has carefully studied the WWII conflict in the Pacific, and has been working to build relations with governments on key islands, as well as building its own militarized islands in the South China Sea.
3. China has infiltrated the United States. The Salt Typhoon exploit and the 2015 OPM hack show that China surveils us at will. They have co-opted some of our political leaders (Bidens and McConnell come to mind) and put spies in the vicinity of others (Rep. Swalwell and Sen. Feinstein, for example). They purchase land next to U.S. military bases and surveil from there. According to DHS several hundred thousand Chinese nationals have illegally sneaked into America.
China has its own problems as the Chinese economy is a shambles and the populace unhappy (with good reason). Xi's approach is Maoist, which makes things worse for them, not better. The United States are in a far stronger position than China *if* serious, pro-American people are in charge. There's a chance that will happen under President Trump, if he can defeat the federal bureaucracy.